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Forum Post: RE: How are point clouds computed?

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Hello Cyril, could you provide more information or resource materials about the process of converting 3D point cloud from image.

Forum Post: Has anyone Processed a dataset captured with Share UAV camera?

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The Share platform has 5 images captured simultaneously but the Nadir Camer has a different focal length so fails in AT?

Forum Post: Comment convertir un fichier au format 3SM vers le format OBJ ?

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Bonjour à tous, Je travaille actuellement sur un projet et j'aimerais savoir s'il est possible d'exporter un fichier au format 3SM vers le format OBJ dans Bentley. Je cherche à utiliser ces fichiers dans d'autres logiciels et j'aimerais connaître la meilleure méthode pour effectuer cette conversion. Si quelqu'un a de l'expérience dans ce domaine ou peut me fournir des conseils à ce sujet, je serais reconnaissant. Merci d'avance pour votre aide !

Forum Post: RE: Comment convertir un fichier au format 3SM vers le format OBJ ?

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It is easy. You attach 3SM reality mesh to Microstation and then save as OBJ. It will use 3sm export resolution as max resolution value.

Wiki Page: Paint - Editing Tools - Bentley Pointools

Wiki Page: Best Practices for Creating and Working with Point Cloud Files in Bentley Products

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Applies To Best Practices for Point Cloud Product(s): Bentley Pointools & MicroStation Version(s): 02.00.01.01 Environment: N/A Area: Attach/Import Subarea: Point Cloud Original Author: Felix James, Bentley Technical Support Group Create POD files for use in Bentley Pointools giving best possible display performance the point cloud Background Sometimes importing large or very dense point clouds can affect the display performance in Bentley Pointools and MicroStation. All Bentley products utilize the POD file format for point clouds. To improve performance the following practices are recommended: Steps to Accomplish Apply a Uniform Filter / Spatial Filter on import . The Uniform Filter (Bentley Pointools) or Spatial Filter (MicroStation) is a powerful spatial filter useful for point cloud decimation. . Set the Uniform Filter to 0.001 (1mm) or 0.002 (2mm), this will create a POD with no point closer than the specified distance to another. This will usually result in reducing the file size by removing duplicate points or points that are too close together and also organises the points in a more efficient way. Consider what the POD will be used for, would a spacing of 0.010 (10mm) be sufficient? If so, you could reduce file size by 90%. Segment large areas . If you have a single POD which covers a very large area you might consider creating several, smaller PODs. This can be done using the Tile Export tool in Descartes or the Grid tool in Bentley Pointools. Consider storage . Point clouds are typically very large files often several gigabytes in size. Ideally they should be stored on a hard drive separate from the computers operating system. Preferably this hard drive would be used exclusively for storing point cloud data ensuring that there is minimum fragmentation of the disk space. Faster hard drives such as solid state drives are preferable but consideration should also be given to storage capacity. POD files can be compressed to save up to 50% disk space, which is useful for archiving old point clouds. Use a suitable graphics card . The recommended requirement for a graphics card in Bentley Pointools V8i are a NVidia or ATI (AMD) Workstation graphics card with a minimum 512MB on-board memory. Ensure graphics drivers are up to date. Minimum display resolution is 1920 x 1080 with true colour. For MicroStation any 3D accelerator card supported by DirectX 9c; minimum resolution of 1024x768 with 24-bit colour. For a list of supported graphics card please use the following link: Recommended Graphics Cards for 3D Workflows Note: Re-export POD if you experience bad performance . If you have issues with the display performance of a POD file that has been with created no filter applied, it can be re-exported and a suitable filter applied to create a new POD. This can be done in Bentley Pointools V8i and using the Bentley Pointools PODCreator using the Uniform Filter. In MicroStation use the Convert command and enable Spatial Filtering.

Forum Post: ITwin Touchup delete and fill feature

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I need to fill some holes that appears on my mesh as photos below, but when I try to use delete and fill feature the message "cannot delete and fill: the selection contains faces on mesh border", how can I solve this?Does it has a workaround to avoid this?

Forum Post: RE: ITwin Touchup delete and fill feature

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Workaround is to try delete the part of mesh and create real holes and then use the cleanup tool and try to fill the holes. Unfortunately in 30% of cases you will get another error that mesh is self-intersecting so you will need to delete more triangles which may cause this issue. Also you can't fill holes which are on tiles border. The touchup tools are very unique and I like them but they are not too practical if Bentley doesn't come up with more usable tools. Please vote for ideas: iTwin Capture Ideas Portal (aha.io)

Forum Post: how to solve problems that Database connection might be lost, trying to reconnect...

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how to solve problems that Database connection might be lost, trying to reconnect

Forum Post: RE: [Contextcapture U19] Turn off bumpy roads as in Pix4D

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Slight improvement in iTwinCapture Modeler 2024.1 version: 24.1.0.560 - Fixed: flat surfaces are too noisy

Forum Post: RE: Recommended number of control points - control point density

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that document has been appended to mapping only, for surveying they vaguely specify tighter spacing

Forum Post: what does this error mean ? is contextcapture really capable of producing mesh model from point cloud

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after importing point cloud I got this error, I was trying to create a mesh model out of point cloud Look forward to hear

Forum Post: RE: what does this error mean ? is contextcapture really capable of producing mesh model from point cloud

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Which version? Is the Engine and Master same version?

Forum Post: [Descartes] Terrain scalabe mesh source editor

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What Is The Difference Between Primary, Merge And Append Option In 3SM terrain editor? Should be clip first or last in the list or after each feature?

Forum Post: RE: [Descartes] Terrain scalabe mesh source editor

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Hi Oto, I have no idea what the Merge/Append column represents. The Geometry Source "order" is mentioned in the Descartes 2023 Help as follows: 3SM files can be composed of multiple sources of elevation and clip data. The order of the files in the list is important as the files are processed in order. So, if a certain area is to be clipped, then the clip definition should come after those data files. Regards, Ron

Forum Post: RE: [Descartes] Terrain scalabe mesh source editor

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As the Descartes crashes trying to group features then it is also not clear if clip should come after each data file or only once?

Forum Post: RE: Pattern Library

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I'm having this same issue. I am working on Descartes 2023.00.01.21. I looked in Program Data\Bentley but I can't find areapat.cel anywhere. Can someone tell me how to find and load the pattern cell library?

Forum Post: RE: Pattern Library

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This is bad programming practice but these data files reside here: %programfiles%\Bentley\Bentley Descartes 2023\DescartesStandAlone\Default\Data\areapat.pat

Forum Post: RE: Pattern Library

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Thank you Oto. For the next person with the same issue. To use this you open the Pattern Area tool, then instead of using a pattern definition 'from cell', you pick it 'from file'.

Wiki Page: Bentley Descartes - Raster Vectorization

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Raster Vectorization Bentley Descartes offers the possibility to detect vector like group of pixels (i.e. : line on a black and white scanned plan) and create a basic geometry element representing that detected group of pixels. The Vectorize tool box includes a set of enhanced editing tools that support extraction of feature information from images. This tool box can be accessed via the Raster Manager Tools menu or from the Descartes Raster Edit tool box. Place Element / Continue Element / Insert Element The first three tools, Place Element , Continue Element and Insert Element , are for placing a new element or continuing or editing an existing one. They are manual and directly controlled by the operator when raster data is not present or not used. They are more or less automatic when raster data is present and used. Place Element is used to place a new vector element in the design file and can be used with or without raster data being present. The resulting element is a complex chain which consist of one or more line string elements and can contain arcs. Tool settings include: Erase Raster ‐ If on, the raster in the selected extent will be erased. Entity ‐ Defines where to place the nodes. Mask ‐ Used to select the color mask. Max. Line Width ‐ Used to determine the maximum width of raster lines. I ntersections ‐ If this option is on, the line‐following engine will not stop at the intersections. Gap Jumping ‐ Use to set the Maximum Gap Length and the Searching Angle. Confirm Jump ‐ When this option is ON, the vectorize engine stops after it performs a jump and waits for user input to continue. Auto Convert Arcs ‐ If on, this feature tries to recognize arcs along the line strings generated with the convert function. Generalization ‐ If on, when a vector line is generated by automatic line conversion, it is passed through a generalization process. This process removes points from the original result to keep only those considered as necessary to characterize the original pathway of the vector line. Tolerance ‐ Use to enter the tolerance factor that determines the smoothness of curves Continue Element allows you to select an existing element and continue placing line strings or arcs from the chosen end. The result is one continuous line string. This tool works exactly like Place Element, except it allows you to select an existing element before continuing. It shares the same tool settings as Place Element. Insert Element is a combination of MicroStation's Partial Delete and Insert Vertex . It removes a portion of a line which is defined by two data points. A new line string is then placed between the points. After specifying the portion to be modified, this tool works like Place Element and it has the same settings except Auto Convert which is not present. The resulting element, made of two former portions and the new one, will be a complex chain. You can place the new part of the element with any of the three modes: Point, Stream or Arc. Productivity Tip: Use the F1 function key to quickly toggle between the three placement modes: Points, Stream, and Arcs. Convert Automatic line conversion consists of following lines and outlines, or following the boundaries between a mass of pixels belonging to a given color mask and the rest of the image. Bentley Descartes provides a rich collection of tools for automatic document conversion. These tools are: Convert Lines, Convert Area, Convert All Connected Lines, Convert Contour Lines, and Convert Circle. Productivity Tip: Ensure that the active colour is different than the pixel colours. This will help you to keep track of your progress as you vectorize the document. Lines The Convert Lines tool is used to automatically convert one or more raster lines and to place a line string for each raster line which is converted. The behavior of this tools depends upon where it is started. For example, if it's started along a raster line, then that raster line is converted in both directions until a break point (raster intersection point, raster end point, or node) is hit. Likewise, if the tool is started at a raster intersection, all branches will be processed until a break point is hit. Tool settings are the same as Place Element with the addition of Auto Continue. If Auto Continue is turned on, then Continue Element will be automatically selected after a part of the line is converted. Productivity Tip: Always set the the Max Line Width value slightly larger than what you've measured. Area The Convert Area tool is used to convert a predefined area as specified in the tool settings. This tool shares many of the same options as Convert Lines. Productivity Tip: Set the line quality of your document in the Convert tab of Descartes preferences. To assess the quality of the lines, display a few samples with a 1:1 resolution. If you see smooth, solid lines, the quality is excellent. And lines with with holes and repeating gaps would be declared as having poor or bad quality. All Connected Lines Convert All Connected Lines is used to convert all raster branches forming a network of lines connected at intersections and to place a vector string for each raster line which is converted. This tool can start conversion from anywhere on the network of lines to be converted: along a line, on an intersection, at the end of a line, or even on a node. Convert All Connected Lines shares many of the same tool options as Convert Lines and Convert Area . Contour Lines Convert Contour Lines is used to automatically convert one or more raster contour lines and to place a line string for each raster line which is converted. In addition, it is possible to assign the elevation for the contour being traced and to increment the Z value for subsequent contour lines. This tool is used only with 3D design files and shares many of the same options as Convert Lines . Circle Convert Circle is used to automatically convert a raster circle and place a vector circle in the design file. Tool settings specify options to control the behaviour of this tool. Attention should be made to the Lock option which constrains the conversion to the same diameter or radius setting and ignores the round off setting. Additional settings, that are specific to vectorizing circles, can be found in the Vectorize tab of the Descartes preferences. Generalize Vector The Generalize Vector tool removes vertices from the vector linework created by the convert tool. When processed, it only keeps those points that are considered necessary to characterize the original pathway of the vector line. Productivity Tip: To avoid drastic, and perhaps unwanted, changes to the elements, always start with a small tolerance and increase it until the desired results are obtained. Place Nodes / Move Nodes / Delete Nodes Nodes are features allowing the user to control the vectorize functions by stopping or constraining automatic line conversion. The main property of a node, which is a point surrounded by a control area, is to stop all automatic line conversion functions and to force the generated vector element to snap to it. They are manually placed with the Place Nodes tool, moved with the Move Nodes tool and removed with the Delete Nodes tool. They can also be automatically placed at specific points with the Auto Place Nodes toggle on. Nodes can be created, displayed, deleted, or saved into files and restored for later use. Productivity Tip: The node colour can be changed in the Vectorize tab of the Descartes preferences which is found in the Workspace preferences dialog. Productivity Tip: The size of a node varies with the situation: If it is placed on a line with a raster snap, it is a little larger than the line. If it is placed where there is no line, or with no raster snap, or with an "outline" snap, it is the size of the locate tolerance set in MicroStation. Text / Cells Bentley Descartes provides a suite of tools that extract text or symbols from scanned drawings and places them as vector elements in the design file. Features allow automatic multiple raster text selection and conversion. Combined with the Vectorize tools presented in the previous section, these tools provide an efficient environment for data conversion projects. The Text / Cells tool box can be found in Descartes Raster Edit or the Tools menu of the Raster Manager contains the following tools: Select Horizontal Text, Select Oriented Text, Select Multiple Text, Delete Text Selection, Convert Text, Text Settings, Convert Cell, Convert Horizontal Cell, and Convert Oriented Cell Optical Character Recognition (OCR) NOTE: CURRENT VERSIONS OF DESCARTES 2023 DO NOT INCLUDE THESE FEATURES. OCR (Optical Character Recognition) is used to automatically convert selected raster text strings to DGN text elements. This feature is invoked with the Convert Text tool, or when the Convert Now option is enabled with the text selection tools. Fit Text ‐ If on, the text is fitted inside the rectangular box and several text attributes are set. If off, the text is placed by using MicroStation’s active text attributes. Preview ‐ Is used to preview the vector text element inside the selection box. Erase Raster ‐ If on, the raster in the selection box will be erased. Text Recognition ‐ Is used to activate the OCR feature. Use Dictionary ‐ When on, the OCR feature will run using a dictionary which can be specified and customized in the Text Settings option. When text is selected and entered into the OCR process, a special text editor dialog will be displayed. The word processing area is used to enter the vector text string or to preview the proposed text corresponding to the highlighted raster text string. In the case of multiple text selections, the active selection is bounded by a red box, while the inactive selections are in the queue and are shown in green. The Text Settings tool is used to open the Set Descartes Preferences dialog which contains specific settings for vectorization and text conversion. This dialog can also be accessed via Workspace > Preferences. Convert Cell / Convert Horizontal Cell / Convert Oriented Cell Convert Cell places a MicroStation cell with it's default settings and optionally erases the underlying raster data. The area to erase is determined by the extents of the cell. The cell placement settings are determined by MicroStation's Place Active Cell tool. Convert Horizontal Cell and Convert Oriented Cell are similar to Convert Cell but provide additional options to rotate and scale the cell interactively. Productivity Tip: When using Convert Cell , you can quickly scale or rotate the incoming symbol by using the AA= and AS= keyins.


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